deliciouskaek:
cyd-and-that:
pizzavanguard:
comradechrisman:
kyaryarchy:
pizzavanguard:
difference-is-happy:
Towards a cooperativist economy and an anarchist society.
yeah what if people did [random thing] and exchanged [random thing] in this weird new way where im like activating it w/ hey can i borrow ur blender pls i’ll tutor u in calculus
also: where did the professional chef get his training? what resources did he have access to and how were they amassed and centralized so he could seek them? Or the paralegal: what laws are they versed in? Would a cooperative economy have laws that even needed a paralegal?Same with taxes, would such an economy have a use for money, let alone the collecting of money or have a need for a class of people to write a tax code, which would in turn require a class of people to interpret that tax code, and another to collect on behalf of that code….
Isn’t this mutualism?
eh more like agorism
Isn’t this essentially what poor communities have been doing for years? When I lived back in Chatham, everyone looked after each other’s kids or did building work or plumbing or made food or whatever for each other all the time. Trading skills was a normal part of our life back home.
i’m gonna point at this last comment for accuracy and giggle at the rest of this shit because isn’t that what the world was doing before colonialism and all the rest?
one more thing to thank—
never mind, y’all know the rest
Also, it presumes upon relatively homogeneous groupings (i.e. along race, class, ability, and/or general good feelings toward one another), without acknowledging that EVERY.TIME. without fail, whenever POC and low income communities (specifically, Black and Latin@ communities) begin to stabilize and become self-supporting white folks come in to disrupt that via gentrification, “public works,” policy reform that explicitly endangers economic infrastructure, redlining, gerrymandering, and every other trick.
It’s no mistake that within a generation of any Black and/or Latin@ achieving a socio-cultural-economic renaissance it’s rendered as a dangerous place infested with all the moral failings of *Modern America*.
I mean, do we really think the erosion of places like Watts, parts of Atlanta, NOLA, Harlem, Baltimore, Detroit (the list is endless) is entirely due to shiftless darkies?
Did we forget about Rosewood? About The Burning of the Bronx?
Look, in an ideal world where people weren’t punished for succeeding despite the odds, maybe we could talk about this.
Maybe.
But probably then only if no white folks were involved.
i think this is a sorely needed message (as long as it is contextualized and explained) for the white community—i know WAY too many poor white folks who *don’t have community* to do this sort of thing with, so they pull the “i pulled MYself up by the bootstraps, why can’t you???” so—if occupy is explaining this and contextualizing it in such a way as to make all the above points clear (not to mention how individual ownership has helped in Native land theft, etc), i say more power to them.
but i can’t agree enough with Note—that communities of color have done this consistently throughout history, and for SOME reason, there always seems to be fucking freeways blasted through the thriving black business community right at it’s peak in the name of “public good.” or “clean up efforts’ that just so happen to be GENTRIFICATION that makes it so the working class community that made the area desirable in the first place, can’t afford to live there. etc.
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note-a-bear:
deliciouskaek:
cyd-and-that:
pizzavanguard:
comradechrisman:
kyaryarchy:
pizzavanguard:
difference-is-happy:
Towards a cooperativist economy and an anarchist society.
yeah what if people did [random thing] and exchanged [random thing] in this weird new way where im like activating it w/ hey can i borrow ur blender pls i’ll tutor u in calculus
also: where did the professional chef get his training? what resources did he have access to and how were they amassed and centralized so he could seek them? Or the paralegal: what laws are they versed in? Would a cooperative economy have laws that even needed a paralegal?Same with taxes, would such an economy have a use for money, let alone the collecting of money or have a need for a class of people to write a tax code, which would in turn require a class of people to interpret that tax code, and another to collect on behalf of that code….
Isn’t this mutualism?
eh more like agorism
Isn’t this essentially what poor communities have been doing for years? When I lived back in Chatham, everyone looked after each other’s kids or did building work or plumbing or made food or whatever for each other all the time. Trading skills was a normal part of our life back home.
i’m gonna point at this last comment for accuracy and giggle at the rest of this shit because isn’t that what the world was doing before colonialism and all the rest?
one more thing to thank—
never mind, y’all know the rest
Also, it presumes upon relatively homogeneous groupings (i.e. along race, class, ability, and/or general good feelings toward one another), without acknowledging that EVERY.TIME. without fail, whenever POC and low income communities (specifically, Black and Latin@ communities) begin to stabilize and become self-supporting white folks come in to disrupt that via gentrification, “public works,” policy reform that explicitly endangers economic infrastructure, redlining, gerrymandering, and every other trick.
It’s no mistake that within a generation of any Black and/or Latin@ achieving a socio-cultural-economic renaissance it’s rendered as a dangerous place infested with all the moral failings of *Modern America*.
I mean, do we really think the erosion of places like Watts, parts of Atlanta, NOLA, Harlem, Baltimore, Detroit (the list is endless) is entirely due to shiftless darkies?
Did we forget about Rosewood? About The Burning of the Bronx?
Look, in an ideal world where people weren’t punished for succeeding despite the odds, maybe we could talk about this.Maybe.But probably then only if no white folks were involved.
i think this is a sorely needed message (as long as it is contextualized and explained) for the white community—i know WAY too many poor white folks who *don’t have community* to do this sort of thing with, so they pull the “i pulled MYself up by the bootstraps, why can’t you???” so—if occupy is explaining this and contextualizing it in such a way as to make all the above points clear (not to mention how individual ownership has helped in Native land theft, etc), i say more power to them.
but i can’t agree enough with Note—that communities of color have done this consistently throughout history, and for SOME reason, there always seems to be fucking freeways blasted through the thriving black business community right at it’s peak in the name of “public good.” or “clean up efforts’ that just so happen to be GENTRIFICATION that makes it so the working class community that made the area desirable in the first place, can’t afford to live there. etc.](http://25.media.tumblr.com/51079c47388e5dc56b0b2569a6266596/tumblr_ml2yd3A5Mm1r0cerqo1_500.jpg)
